Friday, November 18

Lost Friday - "The Other 48 Days."

Season 2 - Episode 7 - "The Other 48 Days."

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Another Lost Friday is upon us. We have much to discuss.

This week, ABC treated us to an "extended episode" of Lost, adding a whopping 4 minutes to the finished product. Instead of using this precious network time to better fill in the struggle of the tail-section survivors in the 7 weeks following the crash, we were treated to an extra-long Invasion commercial. Thanks ABC, you know just how to spend your money. After all, why waste time on a massive hit drama that spawned a dozen knock-offs, when you can spend time on the knock-off itself? This must be why I'm not a producer.

So, in honor of getting screwed over this week, the CDP is offering Lost fans a special "extended" version of LOST FRIDAY. This week's post is three times as long as the previous weeks, including interview snippets with Lost producers Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse (duplicated without permission; come and get me). Don't believe me? Look how far into this post we are without any new information! Man, I should be working for ABC.

As always, let's all inhale deeply and recap the week that was, courtesy of our friends at Wikipedia:

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After the tail section of the plane crashes into the water off the beach, the survivors swim ashore. A little boy with a teddy bear points out his sister floating in the water. A large man (Mr. Eko, played by Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje) drags her out and Ana Lucia performs CPR on her. The little girl asks about her mother, who is supposed to meet her in Los Angeles; Ana Lucia promises the girl will see her.

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A man runs out of the woods asking for help, saying there's someone alive in the jungle. The man, later identified as Goodwin, brings Ana to Bernard, who is still in his seat, up in a tree. Goodwin says they have to climb up to rescue him, but Ana disagrees. Ana coaxes him to grab the tree branch, anticipating that the seat will fall. Just as Bernard grabs the tree branch, the seat crashes to the ground. Back on the beach, Goodwin, who claims to be in the Peace Corps, builds a signal fire. Bernard asks Eko if he found any African-Americans among the bodies, as his wife Rose is African-American and he can't find her. Eko tells him no, but he will pray for her and for their rescue. That night, three of the adults are taken and Eko kills two of the Others with a rock when they try to take him. From that night on, he refuses to speak.

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Nathan suggests staying on the beach, and the group does so. On the fifth day, a man dies from a leg injury and is buried. On the twelth day, the Others take nine more, including the two children, and Ana kills another one of their opponents. Unlike the previous Others, who possessed nothing but the clothes on their backs, this one is carrying an antique U.S. army knife and a list of the nine to be taken, along with their descriptions.

The survivors opt to head into the jungle. They make a camp near a source of fresh water and fruit trees. Ana digs a pit-cage. She knocks Nathan unconscious and throws him into the pit, having become suspicious of his unexplained absences and how nobody remembered seeing him on the plane. She begins starving him, demanding to know the location of the children, but another member of the group is feeding him when she's not looking. Ana tells Goodwin she intends to start torturing Nathan the next day. That night, Goodwin frees Nathan, warning him of Ana's plan. When Nathan turns to leave, Goodwin grabs him and breaks his neck.

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The survivors, convinced the Others have found them, move again and find the latest hatch with the Dharma Initiative logo. In a box they find a glass eye, a Bible and a radio. Goodwin and Ana go to high ground to try to get a signal. While there, Ana reveals that she knows Goodwin is one of the Others, because on the first day, he ran out of the jungle with his clothes completely dry, ten minutes after they landed in the ocean. Goodwin admits he killed Nathan, saying that if Ana had cut off Nathan's finger and he still kept his story about being on Flight 815, she would have been suspicious and assumed someone else was the infliltrator. He confirms that the children are still alive, also saying that the people who were taken were taken because they were "good people." The two try stabbing each other with the army knife; they roll down a hill, and Ana impales him with a sharp stick.

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Ana returns to the survivors but doesn't tell them she killed Goodwin. On the forty-first day, Bernard picks up Boone on the radio, but Ana dismisses it as another trick by the Others. "This is our life," she tells them. She goes off by herself to cry, and Eko, speaking for the first time since the crash, tells her everything will be all right. She asks him why it took him forty days to speak; he asks her why it took her forty days to cry.

Soon after, Cindy and Libby find Jin washed up on the shore. The events shown in previous episodes are replayed from the tail section survivors' point of view. In the final seconds, it is confirmed that Ana shot Shannon. In previews for next week's episode, it is also confirmed that Shannon has died.

Okay, let's back up and take that all in for a bit. Make with the numbers!

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1. The beginning of this episode was fantastic. Watching the tail of Oceanic 815 come screaming into frame and exploding into the ocean was pretty damn cool. I just wanted to get that out of the way before we went further.

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2. A lot of people online were wondering why Bernard was buckled into a seat. After all, Bernard was out of his seat when the plane began to crash. The answer for that is he took a seat as the plane started to go down. We saw Charlie do the same thing. Obviously, the corpse in the tree with Bernard wasn't Rose, so it should be implied that he took the nearest open seat when things got crazy. By the way, I think that picture up there is awesome, because he really looks terrified. That's good acting, right there.

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3. Watching Libby snap that dude's leg into place was great. Although "The Other 48 Days" really did nothing in terms of answering many questions, it was exciting to see everything from the beginning again. Most of us have seen the crash and post-crash footage about a hundred times, so seeing it from a different light was interesting, familiar and original at the same time.

4. Let's talk about Mr. Eko. Rumors are flying around online as to what this guy is all about. Here are just a couple of the more decent (or horrible) theories:

a) Eko wasn't on the plane. He was one of the ministers in the Nigerian drug plane, and he's been on the island ever since, either on his own or as an Other.

b) Eko was on the plane, but has a connection to people in the Nigerian drug plane.

c) Eko is actually Walt. He was given a growth hormone that caused rapid aging (yeah, a lot of people actually believe this).

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Looks like he was on the plane to me, but I've been wrong before.

Eko is instantly one of my favorite characters, for a number of reasons. First off, he's a black version of Locke. Clearly a "man of faith," it won't be surprising to find out that Mister Eko was Minister Eko back on the mainland. They way they stressed that he would pray for Rose and the survivors, and the way they hung onto the reaction shot of locating that bible in the hatch, it all seems like it's being slathered pretty thick who he really is.

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Another reason I like Eko is because he bashed in the heads of two Others with a damn rock. Anyone who carries around a whoop-ass stick with scripture carved into it is not to be messed with in my book. I can see why the early rumors were that Sam Jackson was going to play his role.

If you must know, we're going to find out a lot more about Eko in the next 3 weeks. He and Locke are going to make fast friends. Speaking of our hatchlings, did you see the previews for next week's episode? Jack was straight chillin' in the brightly-lit hatch, sporting a clean shirt and everything. They have it pretty good over there now; it's like an apartment where you don't have to pay rent.

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5. Moving on with the episode, these Others are crafty. In the first season, Ethan infiltrated the hatchlings, only to be capped by Charlie at the worst possible time. This time, Goodwin showed up as soon as the tail section hit the water, and started taking inventory of who to swipe.

By the way, the cutoffs, bare feet and soaking wet thing is creepy, because it's becoming clear that some of these Others are coming out from the ocean. Speaking of which, Walt is now sporting the same "kidnapped by the others" look, just like those little kids that got swiped as well.

Goodwin claims that everyone who got kidnapped is okay, and they were taken because they were good people. This may explain why Claire was the only one taken from the hatchlings camp, and they just left Charlie to die. It seems like they take who's good and kill everyone else. This points towards a utopian society, or at least the shambles of one.

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And the list, my God, the list! Descriptions of the castaways? What they looked like? Really? Obviously, the Others are part of a big reason why the island is so messed up. The Hanso Foundation and Dharma Initiative are up to something big, and the Others need fresh meat that's pure of heart.

6. Hearing Boone over the radio was creepy as hell. You knew it was coming, but it's still depressing to think that he was dead just hours later.

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7. The Arrow hatch. For most of us nerds in the know, we knew this was the second discovered hatch months ago. The standing theory is that there are 6 Dharma Initiative hatches on the island, all designed to monitor and experiment on the 6 programs funded by the Hanso Foundation. The six hatches seem to be named after the 6 star systems in the constellation Apollo (remember the candy bar?), so if this is true, here are all six hatch names:

Swan
Arrow
Crow
Goblet
Serpent Handler
Hunter


We'll find out more about that really soon. There's a lot of hatch drama set to unfold in the next 3-4 weeks.

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8. Shannon, Shannon, Shannon. If you remember, I claimed last week that I was convinced that Ana Lucia did NOT kill Shannon. Rumors were flying abound, and I stood my ground. Now, thanks to what we saw last night, along with what we saw for next week and what we hear in this upcoming interview, it seems that Ana really did kill Shannon.

For your reading pleasure, here's an extremely recent (and funny) interview with Lost producers Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse. It's lengthy, so I highlighted the really important stuff in bold. Enjoy!

First off, I have a bone to pick with you, Damon. Last July, I asked you if a female character was getting killed this season on Lost, and you said — and I quote: "I think it would be fairly silly for us to kill a woman — there are only three or four of them on the show. And they're all really hot." So, I guess my question is, how can I ever trust you again?

Damon Lindelof: I never said we weren't going to kill a woman. I said it would be silly. And you know, Carlton and I are pretty silly guys. You should see the hat that he's wearing right now.

Carlton Cuse: That's all I'm wearing.

Damon: And also a sock, but that's another story.

Did it bug you that Maggie Grace's people leaked that tidbit about her possibly joining the cast of X-Men 3 over the summer? It was a pretty major tip-off that she might be leaving the show.

Carlton: There's no incentive for them to preserve the creative sanctity of Lost. You have an agency full of people whose job it is to get Maggie Grace other work. And how could we begrudge her that? We can't prevent her from going out and earning a livelihood, you know? There's the perception that Maggie had to turn down X-Men 3 because of Lost.

Carlton: I don't think that was the circumstance. We would have been accommodating had she been offered that job.

Damon: Carlton and I would have bent over backwards to see if there was a way to make it work.

Why was Shannon marked for death?

Damon: It was by no means a result of Maggie's abilities as an actress, which, we felt were gaining ground every time we saw her on the screen. But Shannon is a 22- or 23-year-old character, and the flashback stories and limitations in terms of her life experience… The younger the character is on the show, the more limited you are in terms of stories you can tell. So, before we started running Shannon into the ground and doing the same stories over and over again, it felt like it was a very natural time to kill [her] off. And the idea that was appealing to us, and certainly to Maggie, was that we would finally show Shannon in this different light. Make her incredibly sympathetic and then she would die.

Will Shannon be back, like, say, in one of Jack's flashbacks?

Carlton: It's always possible she could pop up in someone's backstory. But she is definitely dead. When a character dies on the island, they stay dead.

Are you concerned that Ana-Lucia is beyond redemption? I can't tell you how many e-mails I got from AA readers asking, "When is that bitch going to die?!"

Carlton: At the beginning of last season, people didn't like Josh Holloway's character either. And by the end of the season, he was one of the most-liked characters on the show. It'll be really interesting to see, as we tell more about Ana-Lucia, whether that changes the audience's perception of her. We think it will.

Damon: In the same moment that we decided Shannon would die, [we also decided that] Ana-Lucia would be responsible for that death. It would be the first time one castaway was responsible for killing another, and it would give so much inherent conflict and trauma [heading to] the merge. We're walking a very tenuous tightrope with her, but we feel that over the course of the next two episodes the audience will hopefully get a better understanding for that character and what she's been through.

Can you confirm that Shannon was, in fact, shot? Fans have been speculating that she looked like she had a stab wound.

Carlton: She was shot.

Damon: People are getting a little too…

They're reaching a little too much?

Carlton: They totally are. And she did not have a Dharma Initiative stamp on her.

Let's talk about Malcolm David Kelley and Walt. Why was his role reduced this season? Were you concerned about him aging faster than the time line on the show?

Carlton: That's a legitimate issue. We've only gone 50 days on the island, and he's a kid in puberty. But Walt's disappearance and, ultimately, Michael's efforts to reunite with him were part of a grander plan. There are also financial considerations. Since Walt wasn't going to be around for a lot of episodes, we had to make an arrangement to have his role be a more reduced role.

Whether you use him once or twice a year or every week, the aging thing will still be an issue, no? Might you recast?

Damon: To answer that question is sort of to reveal what the plan is for Walt, and there is a plan. I always feel like recasting is the nuclear option. You do not do it unless it is absolutely, 100 percent necessary. But obviously, we have a story that we want to tell about Walt and about Michael and Walt.

Last week Shannon and Sayid gave us our first big Lost sex scene

Carlton: It was the second big sex scene. Boone and Shannon had sex together [last season]. So, if you have sex on the show, you're pretty much going to end up dead.

So, who's having sex next?

Carlton: (Laughs) As we move into the middle run of episodes, we're definitely emphasizing the Jack-Kate-Sawyer romantic triangle. The level of sexual tension between those three characters is definitely being ramped up.

How will Ana-Lucia figure into it?

Damon: As the respective leaders of their respective units, Ana-Lucia and Jack have a great deal in common with each other, and that's definitely something we're going to be exploring. But [the fact that] Ana-Lucia inadvertently murdered one of the members of the tribe doesn't exactly [lend itself] to candlelight dinners and walks on the beach. She is a woman; she will have romantic entanglements. But I think the one that will begin to emerge over the season will be the one that you least expect.

What about Charlie and Claire?

Carlton: We're definitely going to be paying attention to their relationship, but it's not going to turn in ways the audience expects.

Will we get any clarification about the numbers this season?

Damon: Carlton might want to punch me for actually going on record and saying this, but I think that that question will never, ever be answered. I couldn't possibly imagine [how we would answer that question]. We will see more ramifications of the numbers and more usage of the numbers, but it boggles my mind when people ask me, "What do the numbers mean?"

Will we find out why Ethan abducted Claire?

Damon: Yes.

Carlton: You'll learn more about it this season.

Will Claire get some of her memory back?

Damon: The loss of her memory happened so long ago that it requires a sort of deft touch in order to reintroduce the concept. Once we start assuming that everybody is intimately familiar with everything that has ever happened on the island, I think the show risks becoming slightly confused. But all of that stuff is in play. It's just a matter of when and how we reactivate it.

Are you still planning to reveal why the plane crashed this season?

Carlton: Yes.


Are you saving that little doozy for the finale?

Carlton: We're saving it until later. We consider that on the ground of fairly major revelations.

Damon: We don't want to stick that one in the middle of March.

ABC billed last week's episode as the one "everyone will be talking about." What'll be the next one "everyone will be talking about"?

Carlton: Ironically, it's the next episode [airing tonight]. We think for us, it's even more of a water-cooler episode than the death episode. This is really a very special episode in that it's kind of a concept episode. It deviates from the form and style of our other episodes.

On Nov. 30 we'll finally learn what Kate's precrash crime was that landed her in so much hot water. Any other big flashback revelations this season?

Damon: In the next string of episodes, one of the really compelling backstory elements is what happened to Jack's marriage. We think Julie Bowen is amazing and she and Matthew Fox are so great in scenes together, and I think the audience is really curious as to what went wrong there.

Carlton: And you should pay attention to Mr. Eko's stick.

Seriously?

Carlton: Yeah.

Damon: Keep your eyes on Mr. Eko's stick.


Carlton: That stick is an important ongoing clue.

Will we learn more about Monster this season?

Carlton: Definitely.

Damon: Absolutely.

Has Disney approached you about doing a Lost feature film?

Carlton: No.

And if they did, what would your response be?

Damon: I would punch them as hard as I could. We couldn't even begin to wrap our brains around how we would produce a feature film. Obviously, the production team in Hawaii is amazing, but the amount of time [it would require] to do a TV show and a feature on top of each other… I think it's safe to say it would be impossible.

Last question: Will there be another death this season?

Carlton: (Laughs) You're very good, but we can't say.


Well, there you go. That's a lot to chew on, and it wrapped up more loose ends than this week's episode. Speaking of which, let's look ahead to the future, shall we?

Episode 8 - "Collision."
(Flashback: Ana Lucia)

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In this Ana Lucia-centric episode, we'll look into her past. If you check out my previous posts, I'm convinced that she's a cop, perhaps on the plane to assist the Marshall with Kate. Also, tempers, conflict and ass-kicking will ensue once everyone meets up with each other. If you saw the previews, Sayid is pretty close to taking Ana Lucia out, as you would assume.

Also, we see Kate tending to Sawyer and the relationship getting a bit more serious.

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Looking at the press release, I noticed that Dr. Marvin Candle will be in this episode. I know that in the future, the hatchlings will find the missing pieces of the orientation tape, but not this week. My guess is that they are just watching the tape again with the tailies.

If anything, this will be an episode to get us all up to speed with everyone, put all of our eggs in one basket and start anew. This is a good thing, because business is about to get even more out of control.

Episode 9 - "What Kate Did."
(Flashback: Kate)

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"Kate's crime is revealed in an episode in which she watches over a very ill Sawyer. Meanwhile, the tailies bury one of their own; Mr. Eko has a hatch-related surprise for Locke; and Michael has a surprise encounter with the hatch computer."

Hmmm, this sounds very interesting and creepy. That's all I'll say for now. Expect to see the return of Rousseau and Desmond, along with the missing pieces of the orientation tape in either this episode or episode 10.

Episode 10 is the big mystery. All we know for sure is that it takes place on the island before the crash. Depending on what theories you believe, this could be any number of people. Personally, I think it's going to be Desmond. He will show up in episode 9 to cure Sawyer with his wonder injections, we'll learn a HUGE plot point about the hatch, and that will set up perfectly into episode 10. We'll meet Kelvin and see what happened to Desmond to have him end up here. Keep an eye out for that.

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Get it? "Eye?" Hey, screw you! I've got nothing to work with, here.

Whew, I'm beat. Another LOST FRIDAY in the books, and an extended one at that. Please sound off in the comments section, and let your incorrect opinions and half-baked theories be heard. If you're interested in LOST FRIDAY, check out all of my previous posts on the matter:

SEASON TWO - EPISODE 6 REVIEW
SEASON TWO - RERUN EDITION: VOLUME 2
SEASON TWO - RERUN EDITION
SEASON TWO - EPISODE 5 REVIEW
SEASON TWO - EPISODE 4 REVIEW
SEASON TWO - EPISODE 3 REVIEW
SEASON TWO - EPISODE 1 REVIEW
SEASON TWO PREVIEW

Comments:
Most important Lost news this week: I was watching an episode of Seinfeld last night, the one where Kramer and Mickey get acting jobs pretending to have diseases that med students have to diagnose. Jin plays the med student that guesses that Kramer has gonorrhea.

Charlie was on the back of the plane originally, wasn't he? And then ran way up to the front when the stewardess started asking him what was wrong. I wonder if Bernard took his seat.
 
Excellent, as always.

We do have to wonder if Goodwin was telling the truth when he said they (The Others) only wanted good people. He had no reason to lie -- but he had no reason to tell the truth either.

Too bad the first set of survivors never thought to use rocks to kill the Others, since clearly rocks are Other kryptonite.
 
That Seinfeld episode is one of my favorites. When we do Pharmacist exams at work, we have people come in and pretend they have various illnesses.

"I'm being typecast!"

Charlie certainly found a new seat when the plane went down. I think he might have been in the tail section until the turbulance hit.

Goodwin was probably right. The kids (and Walt) are clearly not dead. It would seem like they DO only want "good" people. The slaughter the rest, but the pure of heart seem to be just fine. Pretty sadistic if you axe me.

Eko Rocks kill Others dead!
 
Maybe AnaLucia and Kate will kill each other...that would be good. Kill 2 bitches with one stone.
 
Maybe Eko will kill them both with a stone.
 
Eventually, everyone without an accent will be dead.
 
Ah yes...we have finally arroved at the truth.

The Dharma initiative, whose sole function was/is to rid the earth of the foul Midwestern US accent.

Explains why Sawyer will live.

The pieces are falling together nicely, now... :)
 
Only those with an accent are good people. Or really bad people, I haven't been paying attention.

I heard that a vehicle was accidently (or purposely) shown in the episode. I'll be looking for that as soon as I get back in front of my TV.
 
I don't know. All these Others keep saying they're from Canada, so maybe they're trying to globalize the rad Canadian accent.

I'm all aboot that. I've been on that train for a year now.
 
Goodwin didn't say he was from Canada, did he? I thought it was the guy that Ana threw in the hole.
 
I thought Goodwin said he was from Long Island or something...
 
You right, Nathan said he was from Canada before he got his neck snizzapped.

I can't get over that shot of Jack and Eko, hanging out in the hatch like they're watching a football game or something.
 
Straight chillin'.
 
They are! The screenshot I have is of Jack yelling, but the first second of that shot was Jack lounging, freshly showered and wearing crisp clothes. I have no idea why this is so funny to me.

Maybe it's because he's sitting next to Eko, who's still shirtless and holding his boom stick. It's a nice parallel of who's had it easier. Sure, the tailies got themselves a hatch, but there wasn't a rad Aussie making sure it was stocked with peanut butter and supercool Mama Cass records.

I bet the Dharma-issued laundry detergent smells really good.
 
I'm convinced now more than ever that the Others are Nazis carrying out an experiment in social utopia, and that Alvar Hanso is attempting some sort of illuminati-style takeover of the world.

I am fascinated by the WWII connection with Dharma. Has anyone yet made the connection that Alvar Hanso shares the same initials as a particularly infamous belligerent in the war? And that the Hanso Foundation's symbol looks chillingly like the one worn by Nazi's?

Also note that B.F. Skinner is mentioned as an inspiration for the Dharma initiative in the orientation film (just before one of the infamous missing bits... I wonder who else was an inspiration?). For those that don't know, Skinner is the author of Walden Two, a fictional book about an experiment in social utopia. Ultimately, the founders of the project have to engage in a great degree of thought control and indoctrination in order to insure social stability. Could this be why, as Goodwin admitted, only "good" people are taken and why "children are always okay" because of their susceptibility to this type of control?
 
I discussed the Hanso/Dharma/Nazi connection here a few weeks ago, and it's starting to get harder to ignore. The more you think about the utopia project that this island was supposed to be, blended with the obviously evil dude A.H. is, you've got a theory that rings pretty true.

The WWII connection goes back to when Hurley's psych ward friend started hearing the "numbers" transmission from the island. We know that this has been going on since at least then. The idea that it's still going on is pretty creepy.

The connections to famous literature and clues lead to a really good theory concerning why the Others only take "good" people. I didn't want to think that the plot of the Others went this deep, simply because I couldn't handle yet another degree of conspiracy. Gives me a headache.

Judging by what the producers have said, we'll start figuring this plan out over the next several weeks and months, and I can't wait for the truth.

Hey, thanks for posting. Don't be a stranger.
 
I really hate this show a lot.
 
I wonder if the utopian project is intact, or if it's run amock and is out of Hanso's control now.... The one station being deserted and all.
 
Yeah, I'm thinking it's the crumbling remnants of a once flourishing experiment. All that's left are a few people who were captured by the initial Others, and are trying to continue what they started.

I bet these Others ended up on the island the same way the survivors, Rousseau and Desmond got there. Then they got captured and became part of the experiment.
 

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